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XP Refuses to Give Up

Susan Fogarty, Editor in Chief, IT Migration Zone | 11/14/2012 | 57 comments

Susan Fogarty
With many Microsoft customers still struggling to migrate from XP, it's no surprise that Windows 8 is taking baby steps into the enterprise.

The Windows 8 team was out in full force in Europe last week, spreading the word about the virtues of the new OS in the enterprise. A press event in London featured a panel made of representatives from three participants in Microsoft's First Wave adoption program. The panelists -- Peter Scott from British Telecom (BT), Edwin MacGillavry from the Dutch Public Prosecution Service, and Vincent Santacroce from Poste Italiane -- explained how they were using Windows 8.

The sticky part is that, even though it's understood that these are pilot projects, the customers are using Windows 8 clients in quite small numbers for specific applications. Erwin Visser, Microsoft's senior director for Windows Commercial, told ZDNet that having operating systems coexist is no problem. "Customers can start bringing in Windows 8 alongside Windows 7."

But it looks like it will be a drawn-out and messy migration process, since even the marquee customers have not fully migrated to Windows 7 yet.

BT has distributed 5,000 convertible Panasonic Toughbooks running Windows 8 to field engineers, Visser said in a Microsoft blog post. BT has also implemented specific Windows 8 features like Virtual Smartcard, DirectAccess, and Mobile Broadband to improve user productivity. But Scott said the majority of his company's 89,000 employees run Windows 7, and a "large selection" are still on Windows XP.

Poste Italiane is a bit more invested in Windows 8. Visser wrote that it is already using four specific apps: "one for CRM, another for marketing management, one for georeferencing and a unique Kinect app in their postal office that consumers can use to order items." So far, these apps are being used on only 60 devices, though that figure is expected to increase to 500 by yearend. And Santacroce told the panel that the postal service is still upgrading a staggering 95,000 PCs from XP to Windows 7.

It looks like Microsoft users will be encountering a mishmash of operating systems, and even those who would like to try Windows 8 will most likely use it as an adjunct to a core OS. As an IT professional, does this give you more options or just a big headache?

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SaneIT   XP Refuses to Give Up   2/12/2013 7:20:58 AM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
I think we run into a couple issues here, the first is that MS knows what the upgrade path is like but they are too close to the product so they gloss over the obvious issues.  Then you have VARs who want to sell you the services of upgrading your systems but you end up doing all the leg work and having all the sleepless nights, they just send techs over to brute force the upgrades. They don't see the fallout that comes with any upgrade, they just write up their observations and move on.
anthony.nima   XP Refuses to Give Up   2/11/2013 10:02:36 AM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
Exactly Sane IT. I simply cannt belive the number of updates that happen and the number of times the versions do get changed. Why cant they simply charge for the updates and keep the same OS ?
SaneIT   XP Refuses to Give Up   2/4/2013 7:23:50 AM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
That is true, if you're sitting across the table from some who is making the upgrade process sound painful then the product better be so much better than the previous version that you would walk on hot coals to upgrade.  No one wants to make more work for themselves or have a rough upgrade experience.
nimanthad   XP Refuses to Give Up   2/2/2013 10:29:29 PM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
SaneIT: On top of it the solution providers should understand that by making things easy is the way to go and move with the customers. If you make things complicated but yet very attractive still no point. Keep it simple is the way.
SaneIT   XP Refuses to Give Up   2/1/2013 7:22:19 AM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
We've learned to be tactile with things that we can hold in our hands.  Since desktops are too big to handle that causes a disconnect with the Modern UI.  Reaching out to touch a display all day just doesn't feel natural.
nimanthad   XP Refuses to Give Up   1/31/2013 9:46:38 PM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
Yes saneIT. The issue it has is that it's not easy as in a computer or a laptop for a user who tries to use it for the very 1st time
Randomus   XP Refuses to Give Up   12/31/2012 6:05:39 PM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
As humans, I don't think we adapt to sudden (and sometimes, unexpected change) very well – but we're able to adapt.  XP has been a great OS for a number of years, but it really is time to look into the future.  Both hardware and software are developing at a quick pace, so our operating system infrastructure must also continue to evolve. 

I know I hated when Facebook updated everything a while back, but fast forward to today, and I can't even remember what the old layout was like!
PositivelyKeith   XP Refuses to Give Up   12/31/2012 3:57:59 PM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
@Randomus I think i agree about keeping with what you know.  I was very happy with XP when I was forced (dead laptop screen) to move to W7.  I didn't like it at first - but got used to it.

Then you pick up a smartphone and get used to another way of doing things.

Then some apps link the laptop and the smartphone experience.

I then find I am more used to a particular app than I am with the OS!
RPatrick   XP Refuses to Give Up   12/31/2012 1:36:20 PM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
@Randomus: Agreed. For basic computing, XP is still good to go when it comes to netbooks.
SaneIT   XP Refuses to Give Up   12/31/2012 7:39:59 AM
Re: IT Doesn't Want to Deal With It.
After this Christmas I think we're going to see this more and more, I have talked to many people who bought tablets as gifts.  The move toward tablets and thus tablet OSes means that we're moving toward lighter computing and simpler interfaces.  People like that and the bigger more complex OSes need to fall into that same mindset or they are going to be left in the dust.
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